I shoot basically the same arrows as woody. I have the 400 and truely like it. I shot a nice 10 point this past fall at about 8-9 yards and felt comfortable with the arrow fully held in place. I drew at about 7 or 8 and he never heard it, so I guess it' s quiet enough. The guy who always sets up my equipment is an old friend who has been in the business 40+ years and he thinks they are pretty slick too. " If" there is any noise, it is cured with a little clear finger nail polish on the four stainless steel tips.