Thanx bigcountry . . .Swamp, Lub., Rockinchair. . I don't know what to tell you guys. . . I'm not trying to light a fire under anyones arse, but it is what it is. . .yes, I have been present for quite a few CB kills.No, I don't know how fastan average bolt travels. . .or the K E on impact. . .but I can tell you that it doesn't take a genius or a scientific formula to see that they arefaster and at least as powerfull as our compounds. . .all you gotta do is shoot one . Once again, I'm not saying they're "wrong" and damning those who choose to hunt with them . . .I'm just not convinced that theybelong in a 4 month long archery seasonwithout special consideration while having people blow smoke up my rear bytrying to convince that the playing field is level.That's ABSOLUTELY ridiculous [8D]