FG - I really am not up on the laws of your State as to projectiles, etc. All I was told when we were planning a hunt out there a while back (that never happened because of some peoples wives

) was that a .50 caliber or bigger was needed. At the time I thought (could be wrong) that only open actions were allowed too. It did not matter as I had lots of rifles for everyone. I really do not understand the projectile not being allowed to be more then twice the caliber thing. You would think they would want people hunting with as much lead as they could get into the animals. But I am sure they have their reasons and are justified in calling the shots the way they do.
dmurphy - interesting numbers for sure. Especially if you are a believer in that ... what is is 500 foot pounds of energy for a white tail number.. or is it more? All I worry about is shot placement. I let the bullet do the rest of the math..