Everyone complains about the accuracy with the se but I wonder if these same folks spend the time finding the guns preferred load? I wonder if these same folks understand these aren't intended to be target rifles (ok the new T model maybe) Everyone compares them to the Ar's yet i don't see them being in the same category other than they're both semi-auto carbines. Buy the gun that suits your individual needs and go from there.
wabted one for a while and no homework til now? Having the mind made up to buy one tomorrow and asking about them now is kinda like asking about the dress code after you've left the house.