Snowdog...good points, I agree. I also usually try and set up so they have to come uphill to me. I' ve learned the hard way about obstacles...they definitely don' t like them as a rule. I realize that it' s definitely hunting, and there are a million things that can change from hunt to hunt, or even within a hunt. I' m not sure the reasons most of these won' t come...I suspect hens may be nearby sometimes...but the birds I ususally end up having trouble with hang up at 100+ yds, where I can' t see them, so I can' t put a finger on it. Maybe it' s just me..?? Either way, I' m keeping after them for sure By the way...what type of pushbutton call do you use? I' ve looked at some but never actually dropped the dime on any.