eldeguello, oldelkhunter, thank you. It' s funny you mentioned the kimber rifle. I was looking at a 30-06 kimber today during lunch, when kimber was still in oregon making the long action. The only problem was that it was a 30-06, since I have 2 already. It was an extremely nice rifle, beautiful wood. The store owner told me it has never been fired. selling price[2000.00] I also asked about the sauer, they told me good luck in finding one. I am seriously thinking about the dakota line but I seem to be at a dead end when trying to get info on these rifles. I have their web but I want straight answers from hunters that has used them. NOT a payroll employee. I really appreciate the help you guys have been giving me. DAKOTA.