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Old 05-12-2008 | 08:59 AM
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Default RE: Seeking Advise

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

ok, here are some ballistics for the 300 rum and the 30/06 to 500 yards, both rifles sighted dead on at 200 yards
300 rum 180 scirroco, 3250 fps
range drop ft/lbs
100 +1.12 3725
200 0.0 3275
300 -5.36 2869
400 -15.562504
500 -31.352030
30/06 150 gr accubond 3100 fps
range drop ft/lbs
100 +1.36 2746
200 0.0 2343
300 -6.33 1989
400 -18.45 1682
500 -37.46 1416
Now, these loads are as follows, the rum load is the listed specs from a ammo maker, I have found no reliable source who had achieved 3200 fps from a rum, andpersonaly don't believe you could achieve those velocities with a standard factory barrel without chamber mods.
The 30-06 is a proven load from more than a few shooters.
Since it takes at the most 1000 ft/lbs of energy to kill a deer or bear the 30/06 does well to about 600 yards. with about any decent bullet you'll completely penatrate a deer or bear with either load so you won't be able to use all the KE of either load, so you'll burn 75% more powder to get the bullet to do the same job with the rum.
also, according to the drops you could just use holdover to around 400 yards with either cartridge, but at 500 you'd have to dial your adjustment for proper shot placement, and the difference between the 2 is 1 MOA, yep 4 clicks on the scope.
I use a 6.5 Gibbs (mod. 270 case, necked to .264) to take deer to about 800 yards and wouldn't hesitate on a bear at the same range
Hope this puts it in perspective for you
RR
Gee, a whole 6" of difference between the '06 and the .300 RUM at 500 yards! This would make no difference at all to a person who has made the effort to learn how his rifle shoots at the various ranges.

In addition, there is NO rifle that can be fired from the shoulder that can guaranteeinstant, drops-right-there performance on game EVERY TIME. IMO, a .30/'06 is just as likely to do this at reasonable ranges as a .300 RUM, AND is MORElikely to leave you more edible meat "than what you can wipe off the bullet", as Elmer Keith used to say.
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