aimlow, shoot your giraffe and let me know how it taste.....Gregh, you know Im certaintly not downing trophy hunters, I like big bucks too, Im speaking of some guys around here that talk about being trophy hunters and they have not even put a decent buck on the ground much less a mature big buck. I don't care what deer people shoot, hunt any deer you want and kill any deer you want, I just tell em to get off their high horse and quit telling Joe to stop shooting spikes if it's not on your own lease. I know one guy that is going nuts over a mature deer and he just let's it take the fun out of hunting and he is draining to talk to. Now giraffes are a different topic