i agree w/ some of hntgrls points and i also disagree w/ some. rammer same for you hntingrl, you asked why does he have to go out, well.....he is a teenager, wheni was his age it was awesome, first does of responsibility and freedom. hookin up w/ chicks. its fun. BUT i do agree w/ paying fopr stuff your self and so on. as far as ppl in this world who dont have a place to sleep, yea tats sucks but there nothin he can do about it. if you were that concerned you weould be sendin a dollar a day to these foundations that help ppl like that. its unfortunate and thing but thats the way this world is. ya know?

m11, you sound alot like i was when i wa s15, i had to work my ass off for my father when i was in school if i wanted somethin but i likee to play just as yhard on the weekeds.......some of that cost me lots of money actually. but your right if i had a cell at 15 it would have bneen really handy to call and tell my parents (who i was lucky that they cared where i was) i wasnt coming home cuz i was wasted and differnt things. but if i wanted my own ph i would have had to pay for it no questions. i was fortunate to be able to walk into a job at any time and i dont deny that fact at all.

rammer i agree w/ your last statment i get so pissed off tht we pay for all these ppl on state help who are fully capable of working but dont cuz there single and have three kids. there are countless reasons thats just one. whet dont agree w/ you on is chores around the house. you live there you shouldnt get apid for doing chores. dishes, trash dirty laundry stuff like that. you live there you def should contribute w/ no hassle.

i duno, there are a bunhc of angles to this subject and i doubt any of us are gonna agree. im drunk and im tired of thiniin about it