This topic has been and will be discussed for as long as shooters and hunters are around to talk about it. I amskeptical of the industry when it comes to "new" cartridges. I am because I hold twonearly useless rifles ... a 6.5 Rem. Magnum Mohawk and a 358 Win. Model 88. I saved and skrimped for both back whenI was a young man.These were my first and second "deer" rifles. Not long afterward I bought the Mohawk, as a teenager, Remington quit on rifle and then for all practical purposes quite on the 6.5 Rem. Magnum cartridge too.The 358 Win. factory ammo has beenscarce for decades. I think only Browning still chambers for the 358 Win. in the BLR. .... and I know no one that owns one of these. I was not yet into hand loading, so when the ammo went bye-byeI was more or less stuck with scrounging.I long ago gave up on that and these two sit side by side on the back row of my gun safe. I am of the opinion that the "super shorts" and "ultra mags" will have a similar fate to these two rounds.One need only be observant and honest to see andcipher the signs.The "buzz" about these is starting to wane. Factory ammo is becoming inceasingly tough to locate and the price is rising steadily. There is not a wide variety being offered by the industry. Of the dozens of folks, probably well over 100, that I have hunted with over the past 10 years I know of none using any of the Ultra Mags or Super Shorts, only 1 using a 300 STW, only 1 using a Weatherby cartridge, and only 2 usinga "Short Magnum". The cartridge selection across the group with whomI huntregularly ... something like 50 +/- guys and 2 ladies ... is overwhelmingly dominated by the 30.06 Spr. and 270 Win. I'd say these two make up 75% of this number.Then several use either the 308 Win., 243 Win. or 7 mm Rem.Mag. There is 1 30/30 user, 1 that uses a 25.06, and 1 guy uses a 7 mm Mauser.

As for me? I am old school, which should be obvious. I'll stick with my stuff ... 22 LR or 410 for small game, 308 Win. for deer/hogs,300 Win. Mag. for stuff out west, 416 Rem. for big critters thatI'll porbably never hunt, and a 12 ga. pump for birds. All old school too and all work well, though I'm still guessing on the 416 Rem. !!!