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Old 04-30-2008 | 03:19 AM
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nodog
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Nodog, I know exactly just that, they won't get a dime, my point is they very well may not see it either way, and Im not sure anyone really cares. Except for them. Im sorry that this thread turned into this in a way, but in a way it is good dialogue for many of us. I said from the start that I was ignorant to it for the most part and that I wanted to know what compelled people to shoot giraffes. Ok, maybe I could have said it a different way, but I was shocked to see it on tv honestly. As far as black Africans and their relations with white Afrikaans, yes Afrikaans is the correct spelling for the whites Im speaking of. If you look at the history of colonization in Africa as a whole, it was quite lop-sided. In favor of the Europeans. To the Europeans, African history starts with them, when they came to colonize. Read any book by a European historian on Africa and you will see the slant. As far as land being taken back from the whites, well, who's was it start with? Let's remember that apartheid was only dismantled in the 1990's and these people have become dependent upon a system that has completely failed them. Remember the plight of the natives in this country, colonization destroyed their lifestyle. Im not saying that the whites in Africa should have their land taken back, but then again, it was taken from them, put yourself in their shoes, and in the shoes of the Native Americans here, couldn't blame them if they wanted it back either....
Going political Bro, bad move when your facts are wrong. The squatters in South Africa have ruined the farm land. You can argue all day about whether they (the white folk) deserved it. Without the diamond mines, it'd be like the rest of the countries on that continent. Me? My Irish a$$ ain't apologizing for anything my ancestors did. Using modern day "morals" to judge actions of those in the past is just plain wrong, and irresponsible. You started this post by questioning someone's hunting. Who cares? They are animals. Different folks like hunting different critters.Whatever lites your wick.
And what many fail to realize is that all ethnic groups have been enslaved at one time or another, the Irish being in no way strangers to slavery.

And I knowfor a fact that the people of Africa have benefited from thehundredsof thousands of dollars the people I know have spent there. It is also customary to tip the help when a hunt is over ta boot.

When the land was taken people were given a date they had to be out by. Many found out that the date was bogus and the government showed up days/weeks earlier and force the people to leave with whatever they could carry, quickly. One family I know of was on to that and had most everything removed before they were treated this way. If the government has no interest in the people, who were they taking the property for? This was no righting of a wrong, just Africa as usual.

Hunters take cash for a reason. The government limits the amount for their own reason. Hunters I know have also taken goods with them for the people there.
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