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Old 04-28-2008 | 06:03 PM
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The X allows the use of a lesser chambering yet still net velocity and flatter trajectory.......

Win/win...............
Horse Puckey. I have shot X-Bullets. I was around when they came out. I had to have them-just like everybody else. Until I shot them. Some were accurate, and some were not. And a lot of them did not expand at all. Caliber hole in, and caliber hole out. So Horse Puckey. And if they are so great---aren't they being discontinued?? For what-something new and improved?? Or is that more marketing spin??

So far every one has tried to explain what a premium bullet is(or what they think it is), but no one has offered a dimes bit of evidence that they are better. All I have heard so far is the manufacturer's spin on why a hunter should pay the premium price.

I do have a 300 Remington Ultra Mag., and I have shot deer with the 165 grain Sierra Game King. I can assure you this bullet does not blow up on impact. And I can also assure you that the bullet will kill a deer.

To quote an old commercial "Where's the Beef", Tom.

Well Tom I look at it like this.... they aren't getting rid of F-18s in the Navy because they didn't work..... they just developed something that works better (the JSF). Granted that ain't a great comparison, because a bullet that kills a deer has done its job, whether it expanded to 1.5x's caliber and retained 90% of its weight or not. If you want an aircraft that will drop a bomb, you can get a hand grenade and a Cessna for a lot less money and bother than it takes to develop an F-22 and train a naval aviator. You'll have to refer to my bourbon analogy in my first post... I think it fits better here still...

The original X bullets that I used were out of my 30/30 Ackley. Now, those big old flat hollow bullets that you could practically sharpen a #2 pencil in... I can pretty much guarentee (though I only recovered a couple) that they all opened up.... heck it was like shooting a partition without the lead in the nose at a deer.

What I think ammunition companies are attempting to do by developing new "premium" complex bullets is eliminate variables that could lead to "bullet failure". They are trying to control the expansion more and more... trying to control the uncontrolable... a bone at just such an angle for example... a bonded bullet will eat right on through that bone, while a non-bonded bullet might start to break up... granted it will make it through the bone and turn it into schrapnel as it goes... both bullets will kill the deer, I'm not debating that at all. Will it kill it any better? Well... just how dead do you want it to be? Hunters look to eliminate variables, or potential issues before the hunt... premium bullets fill that niche for some folks... guys like you and I Tom... we handload and build up loads for our rifles so we can hit a Skoal can at 300 yards every time, and we enjoy doing it. It doesn't matter to me (or likely you either) if the bullet that will do just that is a 5 cents worth of lead tire metal bullet or a .75 TSX bullet. As long as it arrives on time right where it is supposed to, we'll find our deer dead enough for us.
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