My conclusion from all this shooting of Barnes Origonals was that 66 or 67g of 4198 is my gun's 300g sweet point, 44g of 5744 was my gun's sweet point with 300g bullets. I have found a good combo of 300g Barnes Origonals at 66g or 67gfor elk. That is what I will try now at 200 yards. I have seen some folks crony that load right at 2350, that should get me MPBR with 3"-3.5' high at 100 yards to 200 yards no problem. 4198 kicks a lot harder than 5744, some say the 5744 is dirtier, but I can't tell that really. Chap