Jeff... Jeff... Jeff... You see the reason you get into all these arguments is that you think everyone has the same opportunities you do. It's all relative. I can put you in thousands of acres and have you so frustrated you'll come unglued. It is and always has been... location. Yes someone may read something into something you say in one of these "SUPPOSE" threads you start, but I have to suggest you may be starting from an unbalanced starting point. It's suppose to be fun. You're not as good as you think you are and no one is as bad as you think they are. The truth is, the guy that does a little scouting and plays the wind will win in the long run. I don't care if it's deep woods, God help us food plots, or just plop down next to a tree. I say to you all, YES... someone else can come into your woods and do better than you. Someone else can come into your woods and do worse. If you feel a need to make it a contest, well hell, you just aren't enjoying hunting.