I see both sides of the debate here but I would have toside with Magic on this one being I am a Deputy here in Michigan and it's always the unloaded gun that kills people about 90% of the time and the other 10% are just thugs!! But seeing where Wing is comeing from you could look at it as look how much we are talking about what was saw on tv and that is good also as a way to get people talking about I would never do this or this is what you don't want to do!!!! I just glad to see different oppions and NO fighting!!! Walt