Thanks woodseye for that link. It seems I have to get caught up on all this info. I called Hornady a few weeks ago and asked them if they would be making ammo for the WSM but they said ( They did not think so) But I think they will change their mind later. I am about 75% leaning toward the WSM and the rifle is no more than a regular 270. The only thing is I will not be able to borrow any ammo from my nephew [8D]