thanks for the input guys. i think i have my size figured out, and i already have a couple of good cots that allow for storage. i will be getting a stove but i probably wont worry about that until closer to fall.

my biggest problem i have now i think is deciding on a frame system. i know there are pros and cons to both. i was worried about setting up on uneven ground which i figured the traditional would bebest but i have heard the internal frame will in most cases extend the life of the tent.

what do you guys prefer?