Wait one second here. White Raven, I' m asking you to clarify what I think is some fishy info you are spreading.

1. I already mentioned you were quoting body lengths without taking into account tail length.

2. You showed a picture of what you said was the Pope & Young record cougar taken by Scott Moore, which was shot in Park County, Wy in 1993 with a skull score of 16 1/16. But oddly enough the picture you showed representing Scott' s animal was of an animal with a score of 15 11/16 that was shot in either WA/ID/UT ... which anyone can look at in the brochure at www.huntinginfo.com/bearpaw.htm the caption on that animal states the facts as you listed them .. 9 1/2 feet long, 205 lbs, score of 15 11/16 .. but Pope & Young' s World Record states Scott Moore shot a 16 1/16 in Wyoming .. which is quite a bit bigger than the animal you posted a picture of. 3/8" of skull size is a pretty large discrepency.

The picture does look incredible, but it probably should considering he' s lifting a 6 foot bodied 3 foot tailed close to 200 lb cat that hasn' t been gutted yet.

Can you explain the confusion on your information please?