Gotbuck I ordered 100 more of the good wads and they should be here today.. (along with a lot of other stuff.. ) and so I am not afraid to shoot off the rest of the ones I have in stock. I think I will try your load of 100 grains of Pyrodex RS and then load it the way you said. I will see if it can knock me over. Trouble is, now that it is on the 60's all you need is a light shirt to wear, so you have none of that padding. I think I will wear my light camo jacket just to shoot under the same hunting situations. I was going to shoot yesterday, but company came over again. Some of the things I have to do to keep company happy..