Buckeye your on a role lately with your threads, I like your threads though, keep them coming!! Everyone is different I guess on what they call a mature buck. Some say 3.5 and some say 4.5. I've only taken one 4.5 year old buck, I wish there was more then that but I see it getting better in the future. I've passed on easily a couple of handful's of 3.5 year old bucks that were in that 125" to 130" range, I won't take a 3.5 unless he's easily in the books. Every 4 to 5 years would impress me with someone taking mature bucks, anything under that is outstanding to me!!