I shot a 8-pointer last season that pegged me when I was at full draw. I still was able to get the arrow off. The 2 does I got never had a clue. The 2 I missed never figured out what was going on,they just walked out of range and keep eating acorns. So I guess I'm doing alright. The funny thing is I felt like I had more cover around me when I shot the buck, that seen me,than any of the other Deer.