I use a Lone Wolf Alpha hang on/LW Sticks, I can go in any tree a climber can and even trees a climber can't for that perfect set up, just another option I thought I would throw out there! I also find it easier to use than a Climber, I have 2 climbers that haven't seen action in 2 season now. I have put my stands up and take them down every evening, not legal to leave up overnight on state land!