No need to appologise at all.... just a friendly suggestion.. might be easier for you to check just one thread than almost a dozen... might make a few folks a little more open about helping you out too... The reference to GMMAT is just an inside joke for anyone who frequents the bowhunting forum here on HNI as well.... he is known lately for his theorethical/reflective posts that all sort of revolve around the same topic and usually spark debate and much ado about nothing. He is a good guy, so please don't take the reference as an insult.