I can't speak for other states, but here in New Jersey there was a time that it wouldn't be uncommon to see 50/75 or more deer per day, the herd needed to be thinned out, and over many years it was. There are small pockets that still hold large numbers of deer, but hunting isn't allowed or is very limited. NJ hunters can kill an unlimited anmout of anterless deer, but these are the same people that complaine the herd isn't what it once was.....DUH!!!!!! I killed two bucks here in NJ, and two in ILLINOIS in 2007, but I do know guys that have taken 10 or more deer per year, over bait, then claim to be the next Fred Bear