Jeff, in all due respect, I think many of us on here feel that you are pushing those limits too fast. Let it happen naturally. You were a duck hunter and you say were good at it, and you lost the love for it or didn't see as a challenge anymore?? I don't know. Anyway, I understand that being the best or going full steam ahead is how you tick, but this is bowhunting, not darts or any other hobbie, what is the rush? Take it in stride man, let all the peices come together on their own. You don't have to be the best at this, not that you said you wanted to be, but I know your personality, it's a lot like mine. I have not had this approach to hunting thank God, but I have with just about everything else in my life, bodybuilding, college, bass fishing, etc.. I just think and I believe I speak for many others, that you need to listen more and swallow some pride, man, most of us have been hunting deer a very long time, and we ask for advice and help alll the time, hell, I have asked for your opinion on many occassions. I listen to the people on here and if it something I don't agree with, then I let them know, and that's all I can do. But I wouldn't ask someone for their opinion and then not listen to their response. All I am saying Jeff is to realx man, this is supposed to be fun, yet taken seriously at the same time, but to try and achieve what you are trying to achieve in such a short amount of time is really just setting yourself up for burnout or major dissappointment. You and I have never had problems and this reply is not ment to start them now, but you can take it anyway you want, I respect what you have done in such a short time, but I also think you havemany more years to go before you understand completely how this brotherhood works.