I don't know, for me it's not that they are not challenging or difficult, I just have bigger deer in my area and would rather shoot one of those or a doe as I would one of them. I have shot many small bucks and many nice bucks too, depends on the type of year Im having. Jeff, you know I don't get into all the management stuff, I think big bucks will be big bucks. We have hunted 1200 acr for 30 yrs and never managed a thing and yet we killed monsters every year, so I don't really manage anything. I see where it is beneficial though, that's another thread.