BobCo, if you need to quit, then quit.. I may not be making myself clear. Hunt for your own reasons, I stated that in my OPINION people are getting into the hunting scene for what I BELIEVE are the wrong reasons. Deer are always a challenge to me, never have I walked into the woods and said to myself, "this is going to be easy". That's just me, others may find no challenge in it what so ever, it is easy to them, so they go out and try to make it more challenging wether that's changing weapons, or areas, etc.. I don't look for the challenge in it however, I just hunt b/c I love every minute in the woods, if it's a challenge great. If not, I still love it. I just don't think someone should feel they have mastered deer hunting and go about looking for a challenge. The bowhunting is not about challenge to some either. It's just what weapon they connect with, is it more challenging, probably, but that's not why I or some others do it, we may just love the actual closeness of the hunt. Again, MY OPINION, not gospel!