ALL JOKES ASIDE THEY PUT A MONSTER WHOLE IN GAME BUT HIT THE SHOULDER AND THAT TIP SUCKS, I MISSED A DOE IN AN OPEN FIELD AND THE ARROW LANDED IN TALL GRASS BENDIND THE TIP STRAIGHT BACK , I WOULD HATE TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON A BAD SHOT THAT HIT BONE OR A STRAIGHT DOWN SHOT THAT HITS BACK BONE ,YOU WOULD ONLY GET 1 INCH OF PEN. MY BEST FRIEND HIT A MONSTER WITH SNIPERS (SAME TIP) AND IT ONLY WENT IN HIS BACK LIKE AND INCH, IF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUZZY IT WOULD HAVE PUNCHED THROUGH HIS BACK BONE AND STUCK IN THE GROUND BELOW HIM ,