And Jeff, yes......he's a 2.5 y/o buck. Both Dan and I weren'tcompletely sure when I shot him, but Dan is trained on aging teeth (Did for NYS DEC for several years) and despite his above average body and antlers he's a 2.5. I'd say probably 50% of the 3.5's end up about his size in that area. When I green scored him (gross) he was 98" and change with no brow tines.