Well I am glad there are so many expert woods men on this site if i had open hardwood and feildsi guess i would agree but i am sure if i showed one of them experts one of my stands in the narly scrub oaks i hunt where if you get off the trail a couple feet you get stuck they would never find it in the dark that is somthing i know to be true i don t care if your Geronamo i put my tacks low in the white of moss that grows on the trees space them out as far as posible and if i caught someone screwing with my stand sites such as taking out my tacks i would stick them in there forehead but everyone livesaround me knows that so they just leave me alone