If the season opened in the morning I'm golden out to about 18 yards! I want them in closer than that, I know I can get them in closer and looking forward to it. Its not that I'm not confident at my said yardage I just want to get them within spitting distance for me as a hunter! I guess I want to test my skills as a hunter! I do the same with my Flintlock, I had a doe at 11 paces but got a flash in the pan, twice! She had NO idea what was going on, I loved it!