Only 3 guys gun hunted and none claimed to have lost any!!! Taters was EHD it still had velvet on it and Kellys looked to be two years old but both of mine who knows.. According to the land owner all the big boys made it through gun because he seen all of them so there is hope.Most of the herd seems to be wintering on nieghboring prop in thegrasslands, we were seeing up to a hundred in the feilds. Most of our bedding areas got flooded out in the heavy rains you could see where 15 foot sections of 6 foot round trees were moved hundreds of yards in floods. we also found like 20 dead does skelatons around..