Jeff one thing some of my buddies do on the 3D course that is not an all out competition is just put an "X" down for if we made a kill shot or not. Thats it, no scoring other than that. Especially when a bunch of us are shooting with our recurves or longbows. That is honestly one reason I went to shooting a recurve, it is a more relaxed atmosphere. Trad shooters almost seem to not take it as seriously and learn to laugh at themselves and each other when shooting. I got bored with my compound and didn't want to venture down the road of shooting back tension releases and putting a scope on my bow, I took a few steps back and went traditional and I couldn't be happier. It has rekindled my love for archery. I know exactly what your going through, I am competitive as the next guy. Having been an athlete all my life competing in many many sports it is very hard to turn off the competitive nature inside you, even when I was coaching baseball and basketball it was still inside me and sometimes it was not pretty when it came out in me. Find a good group of Trad guys to shoot with and I bet you will see the type of fun and relaxed nature Im talking about.