Bigcountry, you feel that way as well huh? About QDM. I think it's getting a little rediculous. I have seen it in my area get way out of wack. Guys telling kids they can't shoot a doe for their first deer or a 4 pt b/c it's not old enough! Come on QDM, let it go a little bit. Im not saying I go out shoot spikes and 4 pts and small ones every chance ya get, but Im not gonna tell a 14 yr old to hold back on a legal deer if it comes by. Just my thoughts. Bigcountry, it does take the soul sometimes out of hunting. Some may agree, some not, but I kill bucks, nice ones, and I kill lots of does, lots of them. I eat em and my family eats em, we have over 1 million deer in the state of Va, don't think Im hurting the population or do I believe Im changing it. I don't kill 40 a year but I kill enough to eat and get my fill.