I shoot 180 core lokt. I have killed deer at 20 yards and killed deer at 245 yards one shot BF done except the gutting. I hunt a mix of brush and strip minesusing der drives or tree stands. I also shhot a pump 06' and am very happy w/ the core lokt.

Only other bullet i like was the 180 grain Black talons, but then gutting was part of that bullet package.