Had Browning Illusion nice bow, but has problems, valley not deep,wants to lunge, string suppressors don't last more than maybe 300 or 400 shots, cost about $5 a pair, and weights over 4 lbs. Learned all these things cause I didn't shop and look at other brands, not this time. Also made by PSE can't say if good or bad. So look and shoot as many asyou can. Hope this helps.