That fellow knows not of what he speaks. He stated in the article that the OO buck flattened out in the barrel. That's crap. If it did that it would have lodged in the barrel and blown that gun to $h!t. The reason the lead flattened out was due to the hydrostatic pressure of the water trapped in the jugs. Water will flatten out any bullet. I have seen a demonstartion where a 38 was shot in to an open bucket of water and the bullet flattened out and never penetrated the bottom of the bucket. If he is sure that the 410 slug or buckshot is not a manstopper, lets see him let someone shoot him in the Buttocks with it. that will bring him around real quick.