It would have been nice if the discussion could have been a little more polite on both sides. It's a good thing to learn about new technology, and a rancorous discussion is not conducive to learning... None of us have experience with this round, therefore, it is not appropriate to simply dismiss it out of hand. On the other hand, it is appropriate to ask questions about things like bone penetration and to point out that no real hunter is going to intentionally gut shoot an animal. It's also appropriate to vigorously defend your product. But a degree of civility should be exercised on all sides.