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...Deleted by CalHunter... You believe that shockwaves do not pass through incompressable fluids (water)?
There are a lot of dead Germans that wish that BS was true.....so in that dark space you call a 'mind' please explain how a Depth charge actually works?
A depth charge works by rapidly displacing water, not by dumping energy into a submarine. That is called Hydrodynamic shock. It is not a"shock" wave, its a rapdi pressure change. It effects objects immersed in the water.... not the water itself. You bought up using a bullets energy to 'create tissure damage'. The issuewith energyis... whats that law about being created and destroyed again....
Marty Fackler worked on the research and development of this technology, so save your incoherant dribble for the peanut gallery, they are the only ones that will buy your BS. I never mentioned 'hydrostatic shock' in any of my posts. I specifically referred to "tissue damage" some like to call the "permanent wound".
He might want to consider going back and editing a few articles his name is on then...among them "The Shockwave Myth." Hey if you know the guy... good for you. You brought him up, I pulled your card. One way or another, if there are people writing articles under his name, including those in encyclopedias, you may want to bring it to his attention. You are the self proclaimed expert in all things ballistical. If you have all the facts... by all means....
Getting back to what is real, the bullet engineer can use core compression to tailor the round to the penetration profile he desires with this technology. For example:
If you want a 200 grain 30 cal. bullet to enter the chest of a grown man and not have lethal sized projectiles exiting, you may want to use 65 percent tungsten and 35 percent binder, and then compress the core at 8,000 PSI.
I don't want a 200 grain 30 cal bullet to enter the chest of a grown man. I asked you a question about the bullet's resistance to bone.
If you need a 200 grain 30 cal. bullet to penetrate a diesel engine block, you may choose to use 85 percent tungsten, and 15 percent binder, and then compress the core at 200,000 PSI. This bullet will easily perform to AP requirements and beyond. In fact, at this core compression, the bullet behaves much like a monolithic tungsten solid.
Diesel gives me the runs. I don't care what your bullets do to metal....
There is no truth to the statement that these bullets are designed to 'disintegrate on impact'. Tungsten is much harder than lead, and about 25 percent denser than lead in our core's format. Even the lightest compressed cores that I have tested easily penetrate the front shoulder bone of the largest North American Big Game. I specifically look for a quartering towards me shot opportunity so I can blow bone fragments into the lung area when using this bullet technology.
I understand what tungsten is and its advantages and practical uses in the hunting field. I've been using it for several years.
It seems to me, with your views on quartering to shots, that you are treating this new bullet design very much like a solid bullet, using the bone fragments as a weapon of their own making.
The part that I do not understand is how you are going to make a bullet going over 3000 fps completely stop inside a whitetail deer without having that bullet break up? Without having it crater. If all this is fairly new technology, than you'll have to pardon my ignorance about it. But it seems to me that this sort of thing is typically what hunters seek to avoid in bullet performance. Not having an animal drop to the shot, but rather having a bullet break up in the animal.
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Of course it is. Why you feel the need to insult someone to prove your ponit is beyond me. Unless you are a mere child posing as an adult, or simply too ignorant on the topic at hand to support your claims with simple concise facts. I asked you a simple question about how your bullets performed on bone. It took you half a dozen slanderous insults and a bunch of crap about diesel engine blocks to finally get around to it.
As far as proof, the Navy and SS have used these rounds for over a decade, long before any of you even heard of this technology. ...Deleted by CalHunter... I will provide proof with no problem, just put 1,000 bucks up, and we can settle this publicly right on this forum.
I get the odd suspiction that you probably won't be around that long.