THATS RIGHT, $40 DOESNT GO FAR ANYMORE WHEN ARROWS ARE INVOLVED, I REMEMBER (BACK IN THE DAY) THINKING ALUMINUM WAS COSTLY AT $40+ PER DOZEN, AND THAT WAS ONLY 6-7 YEARS AGO, NOW, IM PAYING AT LEAST $100 PER DOZEN FOR CARBON. BUT, I CAN SEND A FEW OF THEM INTO THE DIRT WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT DAMAGE, I JUST CANT SEEM TO FIND THEM. I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER SITE YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT, IT IS GEORGE DIXONS, I THINK IT IS GEORGEDIXON.COM, BUT YOU CAN RUN A SEARCH FOR IT. HE GIVES SOME POINTERS ON YARDAGE JUDGING.