rooter. Be careful there are folks on this board who will raise hell with you for even attempting to hint that you can have too much rifle for those vicous whitetails. When I did shoot Magnums I used only 180 grain Hornady spire point. For target shooting I used 190 grain Hornady BTHP. They worked very well for hunting as well although I don' t thin Hornady reccomended them for Hunting I use Barnes X bullets a lot but the Hornady' s have worked well through a large range of calibers.