??? about 30-40min never really checked just went. I got your # and yes we can get together in afternoon sometime until then when you scout try to find roost-strut-feeding areas may take a few early (pre dawn)am trips to figure it out. Finding these areas will help in figureing out a setup. BTW how old is your son April 5 is youth day and every day out is educational. I would offer to go with you then but I already have 2 kids lined up. If you want to try this we can meet pretty soon to start planning his hunt. I'll prob call you Sun. after church.