I will throw a different into the mix. We tried out the Steelforce Phathead 100's on a FL hog hunt with excellent results last month. Great penetration and excellent blood trails, which is says something considering we are talking hogs. We shot 7 hogs with them. Four of us went, and all four of us needed any tuning adjustments for the heads before the trip. Heck, I will send you one to try out before you go buy any of the others. PM me your address. I can post some damage pix from the hunt if you like.