Sliver, I honestly hold my breath til it hits. Im never sure. Davidmil, these are brand new arrows, 2 weeks old. They are heavier, but I retuned and reset everything with a new rest. Targethogs, I seem to have something going on, how would you describe being off with a shot? I have been considering anything over an 2" away from where I wanted to hit at 20-25 yds. Am I being rediculous?? Or am I being realistic??