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Old 03-13-2008 | 12:35 PM
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Shultzy - I think you and I are close in assesing where we are as hunters and recognizing the significant gap between killing a 3.5 yo as compared to an older deer. I mentioned in Greg's thread that I can kill a 3.5 yo any year I choose. I stand behind that statement, but I couldn't have said that 5 years ago.

I have learned how to minimize my impact of coming and going from stands, the disciplineto create and honor sancturies, choosing when to hunt(i.e weather patterns) so as to not wear an area out, etc as the reason that I think I am capable of seeing and killing more 3.5yo deer than what I used to.

As far as progressing to the next level, if i knew I would already be there.But the three I am committed to focusing on the most is to
1) quit shooting 3.5 yo deer so as to increase my chances the next year.

2) find more places to hunt so that I can reduce pressure in my hot spots even more so than already and be even more selective when I go into these areas.

3) When I do hunt my hotspots that are not in but close to bedding areas, I am committed to getting there a full two hours before daylight in hopes of not bumping the mature deer that is probably nocturnal to begin with but maybe I catch him still milling/browsing around right at start of legal shooting time.

But I've got to be hunting somewhere. I don't see myself as ever being disciplined enough to significantly reduce my days afieldin order to maximize my chance at a sure enough mature deer.

If it is between less overall hunting or only killing 3.5 yo deer, I will opt for the 3.5 yo and more days afield and accept my limiations. But in the meantime, I am getting more places to hunt and am going to spread it out as much as possible.

I started incorperating your steps for the last three seasons. The first year that I passed on 3 1/2s, 4 of them would've made P&Y. However, I learned an awful lot that year including that by having patience I'd see more, older bucks.

The one part of your step that I do not folow is getting there 2 hours before daylight. I like to get there 10 minutes before shooting light. The reasons are that there is less time for my scent to disperse, most times I can see a bit better and get to my stand without bumping deer and most of all, it won't kiil me to hear something and not know what it is!! [:-]
I agree with Greg. There is no need (IMO) to get to stand 2 hrs. early. While the attention to that detail is applaudable I dont see it as gospel. Example: your in stand two hrs early and the buck your after is still mostly nocturnal. You here him pass thru and get on the down wind side of your setup. He knows your there and will scoot 50 yards around that spot the next day. Like Greg I am in the stand about 10 minutes before legal shooting light.
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