I myself have a long way in becoming an excellent 4.5+ year old mature buck hunter. I think I'm an average hunter hunting these big guys (4.5's and up). I see them here and there (30 to 40 yards out) but getting them in bow range for my recurve (20 yards) for me is the next step. I think I'm advanced on the 3.5's and I have them some what figured out but man is it tough getting these big guys (4.5's) in front of me in shooting range. Its a whole new level of hunting that I've been learning hunting these older mature bucks, I'm learning but its a slow and sometimes painful process! What I'm asking is whats the next step in hunting these big guys or just deer in general for you? What do you feel you have to do to get where you want with your deer hunting? For me its getting these 4.5's another 10 to 20 yards closer. How am I going to do that? Better stand placement (try finding that exact tree instead of being off 30 yards or so) is where I'm going to start and we'll see if it pays off this fall. I'm going to pay more attention to the little things this year, small little trails, escape routes, sneak trails that are right below my nose that I'm not paying close enough attention to. What I just high lighted is what worked for me this last year so we'll see if it works again. Maybe I was just lucky too. Maybe some of your ideas will help one of us.

The whole point of this thread is to see what everyone else is going to do this upcoming year on getting to that next level. This thread has nothing to do with me, I was just stating what I'm going to try and do to get to that next level. Thats what I want to hear from everyone else.