BM - I have no allegiance to HCA, just like I have none to Bowtech (or Hoyt or Mathewsor Ross or anyone else) I'll tell you right now: HCA's customer service sucks, their arrows are dreadfully overpriced and they're not very good at returning phone calls. Oh, they have no 800-number either. And I did lodge a complaint with the owner about that too. Their website looks like a kindergartener made it.

Bold proclaimations such as these are what makes the King the King. The King is not afraid to call a spade a spade. It's why he commands the respect of his peers.

Back on topic:there isn't a halfway-educated consumer in the free world paying full MSRP on the HCAbows. Their Average Joe program is open to everyone, no questions-asked - it's no secret. $520 (I think that's still the price). And I know that program has been enormously successful - so most of the Iron Maces you see floating around - that's where they came from.

I don't have to know the overhead on their arrows to know that they're not worth $10 a piece. I don't care if they're blessed by the Holy Savior himself - I ain't paying $10 for an arrow.

Kudos to everyone who enjoys overpaying for their gear. I know I don't.

This reminds me of a thread that someone (buttonbuckmaster, I think) started a while back - regarding gear that you "go cheap" on. Halfway through the thread, it turned into some kind of bizarro-world boasting match about who pays the most for the most useless things. Almost as if it was a good thing to blow the maximum amount of money on everything possible. LOL "I only buy the BEST" blah blah blah.

Well Lah Tee Dah. Here's your sign.