Quoting quicksilver:

"I got a sweetheart deal on my I.M. - $520 with a dozen arrows.

I'll always say that the '05 Ally was the best bowhunting bow ever built."


Apparently you’re willing to sacrifice top quality in favor of price. Were you told what kind of a deal was worked out, particularly any royalties paid,re: the collaboration on your bow?


"Put it this way: If this discussion leads to a price reduction of $1, and Bowtech sells 100,000 bows - I will have saved the American public $100,000.00."


Do you expect this will put you in some position of merit? What percentage of this amount will you expect as royalty? What were all costs associated with your discussion here?


"Bowtech/Hoyt/Mathews aren't dictating the terms of the sales of sellers of "used" bows. That's why they usually go about half price."


So do cars and most other items. Actually it’s called depreciation.


"Nag. Call. Ask questions. Be a pain in somebody's ass. You'll get a fair deal."


This usually does very little to “get a fair deal”. It generally gets you no more than a reputation.


"What about asking questions to make sure the price is commensurate with the cost?"


You fail to ask ALL the pertinent questions. R&D, marketing, advertising, salaries and benefits, shipping, packaging, building overhead, out-sourcing costs etc………..getting the picture? What it costs anyone to produce a product is their business alone. If you feel you're not getting your money's worth, don't buy it.


"Query: If you're in the building business, would it be kosher for you to call all the other builders in the area and say "Hey, whaddya say we all bump the prices of our buildings up by 50%? That way, we'll have the market cornered. Nobody is allowed to charge less than $X, and we'll have our vendors jack up the prices on anyone who tries to undercut us."


Of course this would violate anti-trust law. It’s also a very weak point in your argument.


"How about cutting the crap with the protected dealer areas and price fixing?"


There are reasons for this you obviously don’t understand. Prices are not fixed, BTW. There are rules put in place to prevent unscrupulous dealers from cutting other’s throats. And your “deal” is an example of the need for some regulation, should said company wish to keepgood dealers. Some companies have even been known to sell factory direct, cutting out the dealers already in place completely.


"Once you start hiding information, tampering with pricing, and playing games with geographic dealerships......"


Who is doing this………that you can show absolute proof of? What information is being hidden that is required, by law, be made available to the general public?


"I didn't say that anyone colluded on anything. I just said that it approaches collusion when you start protecting dealerships by setting geographic boundaries, refusing to respond to inquiries regarding overhead and setting factory-madated minimum pricing. That's not slander, that's an opinion."


That’s not an opinion. That’s a deluded joke. Others asked. I will, too. What was the manufacturer'scost of all products you bought last year? Didn't they tell you?