I would like to add, what about using the 180 gr. Nosler bt' s? The 150 and 165 gr. bt' s I' ve shot through my .308 so far, though very accurate, have been turned inside out when I dug up some of the rounds out of the loose dirt behind the target. Maybe the 180' s would hold together better on deer in this particular round maybe? Anyone fired loads like this in .308 or 30-06?