I realize I can't shoot cock vane up, it won't clear the cables. I also took off anything that resembles a kisser. So far so good. Shot well today for me. My only complaint is that this X Force has so much vibration that is loosens a screw in the front of my stabilizer. Oh yeh, why do my arrows look like they are spinning counter-clock wise?? Are they supposed to? I used an EZ fletch tool (straight 1 degree).